Did I say that? No I said the developers haven't made a good MMO since 2004. I never said they were horrible at their job. Every game that has come out has been good at what it does. I feel they are wrongly labeled. We have an MMORPG in early game. You level you experience the world and people around you. At cap it turns into a Lobby grind. I think the developers have failed us at endgame by using the same system over and over and then wonder why they aren't doing any better then the guy to their right. Hell some dev's come right out and say its the players fault entirely, looking at you SWTOR.