So as I read a lot of these threads I notice there are a lot of old school, hardcore, and dedicated gamers. So let me preface this by saying I completely respect that, and most the time I would label myself as one as well. Reading these threads, however, I notice a common trend. They want features that have been dying in the MMO genre for a reason. Attunment quest, non LFG tool or non QUE servers, hardcore OW PVP, nearly impossible to access raids, ect (but they all hate dailies). None of these are a problem on their own but they all point to a common problem. I believe we have all forgotten we aren't the only ones playing. There are others out there, others far less active than us. They give just as much revenue, as well as having just as much heart, but you won't hear them on the message boards. They don't have the time for that. I understand there are good reasons for some forced time sinks, server communites, rarity of items, ect, but we have to remember end game content outside of solo quest and small easy stuff is just as important to them. This is not about being lazy or not having skill, its about time. Many MMO gamers started in their teens or childhood with ultima online up to WoW but all those gamers have grown up in the decades since then. They are parents and working adults. Time is far more of an issue now. I urge you to take this into consideration in future discussion about how you want a game to be played. After all an MMO is made of ALL of the people that play it. I'm not saying there shouldnt be stuff for the addicted gamer spending over 40 hours a week in WildStar but it shouldn't hinder the gamer who can only spend 10 a week at most. Allow them to have just as much fun as those with more time and everyone wins. We shouldnt divide ourselves just because we think they will hold us back, they have just as much to teach as we do them and they temper the community as much as we do. Learn to embrace rather than exile (*snicker*) them. Let them have a taste of the full meal we are having. I leave you with this.