Now I didn't read all 8 pages, and when I voted in the poll its currently at 67 yes and 68 no, so things seem split. This is just my opinion. I play Guild Wars 2, among other games, and I really like the PVP in GW2. I am a casual player, and am not able to play all the time, so I voted to not have PVP stats. I enjoy the GW2 take on armor. Gear purely for aesthetics, and skill based combat. I can take time off, and come back and be just as competitive. I enjoy seeing different armor tiers, and making my character look bad ass is enough motivation for me to play and level.The only place I think they could improve is I am rank 34 (I think), and it feels like forever for me to get a new level. That is kind of taking the thrill of new gear away. Other than that, my PVP level is universal through ALL characters. So I can play my thief one day, a necro the next, and so on and so forth. I really like being able to pick up a class and pvp, instead of spending 80+ hours leveling that character to cap just to compete with them. I can see both sides to this though, but it is nice to have variety and get a feel for another class.