Hi Furor, I'm happy to not go back and destruct Dirty Outlaws viewpoint further. He states I changed a post which I haven't. (Edit:I did take out the cool story bro about the warrior and the spellslinger as I felt it was imflammatory.) I took it off straight away but I stand by the comment that he is a stealth focused player. It would also help if he didn't say the comments below. With regards to your point above we are on the same page. The basic premise of the comment "to be competitive" is that the vast majority of players will roll the flavour they most like and are familiar with. If so they should generally be feel like they are competitive or have a chance. Designing low mitigation classes to from the outset be a easy beat for another class just doesn't seem smart.