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True hybrid play?

Discussion in 'WildStar Classes & Paths' started by Allstar, May 13, 2013.

  1. Allstar

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    Every class in WildStar has the potential to be a hybrid.

    But how realistic is it that we're going to see a lot of hybrid play, and where is the line between "hybrid" and "support" roles drawn?

    I wrote a brief article for MMORPG.com discussing it! Let me know what you think :)

    What would you like to see in a hybrid in WildStar?

    Do you think that with the Circuit Board system, itemisation will be flexible enough to support it?
  2. Drasas

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    As a healer I play healers to in fact heal. I don't know about the rest of you, but if I had intention of doing damage to the boss I would have spec'd and geared for it.
  3. Bainik

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    I really hope we don't. I like MMO gameplay exactly because the group setting lends itself to hyper-specialization. Given how MMO meta-games always evolve if hybrids are viable then suddenly either they're a way to may everyone a healer while still keeping DPS requirements so all your DPS are having to play a half-healer, or they're a way to get rid of the true healer slots and boost DPS so your healers are all having to play a half DPS character. Both of those options suck for people who actually enjoy their role and want to play it.
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    Well you got Hybrid and Hybrid and a Hy-Bird ofcourse.

    Hybrid: A character that can be all class in 1, and is good at them.

    Hybrid: A character that can be any class, but still specialises in 1 at a time (like WoW's druid).

    Hy-bird: A bird that flies oh so high :p

    I love hybrids like in WoW, where i only have to make 1 character to do any role i want. Since i'm a person who doesn't likes Alts it's perfect for me!

    In Vanilla WoW they tried to make it so the druid can be more then 1 role in combat (and we all know it didn't really worked out very well).
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    I like hybrid options, especially since I generally invest in mostly one character more than the rest. I like being able to heal or tank (especially tank) when my team is short on either and be that extra-versatile player that helps everyone push content to counteract certain setbacks. I love DPSing the most but I enjoy switching it up now and then and act as a more versatile, reliable player to those I play with.
  6. Sneakybuffalo

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    It completely depends on how they structure skills. If skills only scale with one stat, then hybrids won't be viable. If they make multi-stat scaling skills then it is possible.

    I don't really understand the point though
  7. Naunet

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    "True" hybrids - those that can perform multiple roles in the same instance of combat - generally don't work out because you need to tune them down so that they aren't ridiculously overpowered. You end up with a class that can technically perform multiple roles at once, but they're not actually very good at either.

    I do, however, love classes that have the option to "specialize" into different roles. It gives gameplay some nice variety.
  8. Extatica

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    omg really....i hate to say it but....we think alike......:cautious:
    I'm exactly the same (except from the DPS part since i love tanking/healing the most not DPSing).
  9. Xlugon Pyro

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    Inevitably our fates must be tied together...
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    It's too be seen, as we also saw stat allocation what might hint at being stuck in your specialization you pick.
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    For me, hybrid classes usually have their place in solo and small group play. Like a tank paired with a hybrid of heals/dps is excellent duo play. You keep the tank alive, and you buff him perhaps, and add a nice amount of DPS to him. That way you can weather content that a tank/dps or tank/heals might not be able to do as well.

    Now if we talk support, things look different. Imho support is neither dps, nor heals, nor a hybrid of such. It's the buff battery that brings a ton of utility to the fight. And I think every class should have some support abilites. Be it CC, be it some passive or reactive heals (aka strike target, gain HP), be it buffs or be it debuffs. And it should be possible to focus your class further into one of those roles, so that say, during a dungeon or raid, you have one or more support players, which buff the group or debuff the boss, that way making the encounter easier.
    I would quite enjoy the idea of having say, a spellslinger which debuffs the everloving hell out of a raid boss, thus doing hardly any dps, but making sure the dozen or more dps-specced people amass more bonus DPS than compared to me going full on dps. While at the same time taking just that little bit of heat off the healers as well. I really like that idea.
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  12. M3stro0

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    Do you mean like dual specs, or actual hybrid builds?

    Because from my experience most hybrid builds are gimmicky, IE the Smitadin.
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    Shockadin, mate.
  14. M3stro0

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    We always called it Smiteadin on my server
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    I believe the thread is assuming dual specs given the context. I don't think anyone would agree that a single-spec hybrid would be a good idea as it would either be OP or useless. I enjoy having various playstyle and role options available to me that I can switch to should the need arise.
  16. M3stro0

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    Yeah I'm all for dual specs, they're really handy in case a healer or off tank can't make the raid
  17. Jojin

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    Given we are limited in the number of active skills we can have equipped at any one time, I don't really see the problem with hybrid ability. It allows for a single character to enjoy solo play and deal with obstacles while at the same changing up skills to be focused in group play.

    In a group setting a hybrids, again due to limited active skills, will most likely not be as effective as focusing. I base this one the separation of stats required for healing, damage and tanking.
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    Depends. If a raid need a support role, I usually cover that, otherwise I focus on a trinity role for group play.

    I am fine with going hybrid for solo play, pick whatever takes my fancy to try out for a successful end result.
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    I'm a big fan of dual/multi specs simply because it allows more flexibility (PvE/PvP builds, Solo builds, mess around gimmick builds and so on). Just more convenient for me personally.
    I get the argument that it can remove a certain amount of 'uniqueness' for those that simply want to stick with a single build/fill a set niche and resent others being able to chop and change but I still prefer my choices over restrictions as it helps me far more in a team/raid environment.

    That being said until we know how much influence milestones and any talent trees (were there talent tree style systems as well or am I getting confused again?) have on skills we won't really know if it's possible to simply swap around slotted skills to change roles or will actually need some form of respect/alternate spec to do so.
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    Ok, I cant help but feel like Im getting trolled here...
    Why on earth would they call it a Smitadin? Smite was a priest ability, wheres the build itself was focused on the ability Holy Shock. Hell, you might as well call Conflagadin if you're just gonna randomly pick a spell from a different class.

    Either that or your server was full of DERPS

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